Reader letters, Aug. 21

Aug 20, 2013

Voters may come to dislike election law changes

To the editor:

Thank you for your thought-provoking article on the new voter law, HB-589.  As you reported, the new law includes many other provisions affecting elections besides the requirement to present a state-issued ID to vote.  You quoted Governor McCrory’s reason for signing the law “to protect the integrity of a person’s right to vote.”

How does it protect voter integrity to cut the first week of early voting?  How does it protect voter integrity to eliminate straight party voting?  How does it protect voter integrity to eliminate pre-registration for 16 and 17 year olds?

How does it protect voter integrity to end public financing for judges, to require judges to solicit campaign funds from those on whose cases the judges will potentially have to rule?  How does it protect voter integrity to increase campaign contribution limits and allow more secret money in elections by loosening disclosure rules?

How does it protect voter integrity to increase the ways corporate money may be received and spent by political parties?  How does it protect voter integrity to eliminate the “Stand by Your Ad” law which required candidates, parties, and outside groups to acknowledge ads?  How does it protect voter integrity to place candidates from the governor’s party first on the ballot?

Even those now supporting the law may change their minds come future election days.  Voting will take much longer as early voting is shortened, judges must check IDs, and vigilantes challenging voters are allowed to cause trouble at the polls.

If you’re not very early, you may not even get to vote since county elections boards may no longer order polls to stay open an extra hour to accommodate voters standing in line when the polls close.

Carole Larivee

White Oak


Honest elections sought

To the editor:

All I want is an honest election. Is that too much to ask?

Why are some Democrats like U.S. Sen. Kay Hagan so opposed to an attempt to have honest elections?

OK. The answer is obvious, but who do they think buys that drivel?

OK. The answer is also obvious. Being guaranteed the right to vote does not mean you are guaranteed to be coddled, carried and pampered without exerting an iota of effort or personal responsibility on your part to vote.

It also does not mean you get to vote if you’re dead, or vote twice or more in different precincts, or vote for your sister, aunt, cousin..., or comatose nursing patient.

It also does not mean you can walk across the state line or be bussed in and register to vote on election day, giving the address of a local motel.

All of these things have been done in recent elections. I’m betting Democrats would have a hard time actually coming up with any individuals who are “minorities, seniors, students, the disabled, and low and middle incomes citizens” who do not have an ID or who can’t easily get one.

Larry Wright

Maggie Valley



We must focus on education

To the editor:

Thank you for your editorial of Aug. 16, “Help public school bridge the gap between needs, funding.”

You state that the state is 48th in spending for teacher salaries and in per-pupil spending but we are able to be 7th in  excellence.

We must not let Haywood County allow the lack of state and federal funding to prevent our children from the opportunity for excellence in their education.

Your editorial points out ways that each of us can help the schools in teaching our children. I hope every parent of every child is involved in education not only of the child at home, but of the class and the school needs. The older generation has the ability to identify needs and help as well. I hope every church and organization has a committee whose job description is to find ways of assisting the schools in their programs and their needs.

Two areas where I see great needs are in learning readiness and in the academically and talented child.  We must have early identification of these children.  I recently visited a special two-week class for pre-K children.  The ability of the teachers in the two weeks allowed in the budget to help these children was amazing.  Every school needs such a class, and two weeks may not be as much as is needed to help some of these children be ready for learning in the regular school environment.

Our children who have special talents should be identified early and teachers and classes provided to meet these special AIG needs to utilize fully their gifts.  Funding can be provided through the Haywood County School Foundation and is tax deductible.  The organization or person can identify their wishes as to where the money should be utilized, identify the program or school, or request where the greatest need might be.  This can be a small amount or a large sum.

Haywood County can provide the best education for our children.  We just need to know how to do it.

Doris B. Hammett, MD






Comments (7)
Posted by: Charles Zimmerman | Aug 21, 2013 11:15

       Dear editor;

       Larry Wright;


      While you offer no documentation of your accussations, here is one of the plaintiffs in the ACLU(and others) lawsuit: She has been voting since she turned 18. She was born at home with no birth certificate. 

           Then there are my grandmothers both of whom had on occaission, "purple hair". Grandmother Zimmerman was also born at home on the farm with no birth certificate. Grandmother Schlemmer was a doorstop baby. Left on a doorstep in Wabash, Indiana. She was never able to ascertain who sired her. Her identicle twin sister was left two doorsteps down to a well-off couple who left the area. This woman was found just before my grandmother died. She refused to believe or even discuss the matter. Grandmother S. never had a drivers license, Social Security card, etc. It bothered her immensly that "she was no one". Both my grandmothers were allowed to vote using their tax papers as proof of their right to representation as in gee, I don't know, "No Taxation Without Representation"!       

        In this "land of Liberty" and the secular republic from which it was founded, "All persons"(14th Amendment) of proper age, Naural birth, Naturalization and/or taxpayer, should have their right of representation be respected, not suppressed.         


            Chuck Zimmerman


Posted by: Allen Alsbrooks | Aug 22, 2013 21:34

Yeah ok missy. What's your point?  My great aunt, Mildred Ellis, was born in 1927 and contracted Polio at age 9 (in 1936). From the on, until her death 8 December 2008, she walked with crutches. She refused to be marginalized as a "cripple" by society and never allowed herself to feel as if she was "handicapped" as a result of her disease. Yet, as a teenager, found the strength and means to travel the 50 mile distance to the Wil Lou Gray Opportunity school in West Columbia, SC to learn bookkeeping skills. Upon her graduation she found a job with the Morehouse family in Sumter, SC. She worked for 3 generations of that family in their plumbing supply business. She went to work every day and never missed work unless she was hospitalized after falling and breaking her "good leg." She had a government Issued ID. She was proud of it and equated having it as part of her patriotic duty. Oh, the most interesting aspect of this all is she was never able to drive herself anywhere. She always had to have someone take her everywhere.


If she could take the necessary steps... Over 50 years ago... to acquire a photo ID issued by the state any one can.  It's easier than ever today to obtain an ID.


How can anyone not have one in today's world? One must show ID to open a bank account. One must show ID in order to cash a check or even apply for government benefits. Your rant rings hollow.

Posted by: Charles Zimmerman | Aug 24, 2013 09:52



     Yours exudes ignorrance and intolerance.  Took me three weeks and much nonsense to legally change my name to match my birth certificate.  

Apparrently you cannot understand that neither of my grandmothers had a birth certificate. Perhaps yours did. Grandma Z. sufferred from crippling arthritus since childhood. She still worked on the farm or in her garden/yard until she was in her late 80's. Bought and paid for 140 acres.

Grandmother S. never could acquire a birth certificate. She ran a"tourist house" on US 30 in Warsaw, Ind. Taught piano. Could not acquire S.S.

Both were allowed to vote by providing their property tax recods.

There is still a large contingent of people that do not have birth certificates. Most are minority. Over 1 in 4 minority people in North Carolina have no drivers license.  Many have been voting for years. Many, like both my grandmothers, have no bank accounts nor get govt. benifits But now they may be excluded. Even though the Founding Principle of OUR Republic was if a law harms one person it harms all people.

Perhaps you were unaware that OUR Supreme Court has alreddy ruled that students have a right to vote in the precent where they go to college. And then there is the most relevant thing I have learned recently. As protected by OUR US constitution, voters are assumed innocent until proven guilty. That's right! US voting law requires action by means of vote before the government can challenge that action. Plus! US voting rights laws do not require any type of identification in order to vote. Again, the govt. is obligated to prove improper action has been taken. To act before the fact is oppression.

        Liberty and Justice for all. Not just some. All.


        Chuck Z.

        Retired. Not participating in any govt. Social programs.

Posted by: Allen Alsbrooks | Aug 27, 2013 16:51

Some people make excuses... Others take action.

And, you said it..."Liberty and Justice for all. Not just some. All"  INDEED. I will remember you said that.

Also, if you draw a check from Social Security may I remind you that was the very first "Social program" conceived to benefit American citizens who had no income when they left the workforce. Although it is a compulsory program in which recipients add to the pool it is still a "social program."

Posted by: Charles Zimmerman | Aug 28, 2013 08:57

    Perhaps you cannot comprehend what I wrote.

    I make no excuse whatsoever. My speeking out is action.

    I am not receiving S.S.

    However, I will eventually. I paid into it to bennefit me in my retirement.

     It most certainly is not "the very first Social program". The very first colonists took care of their own. The various Indians helped greatly also. Thomas Jefferson pointed out in "The State of Virginia..." that those not able to provide for themselves and/or their family were taken into the home/responsability of the wealthy. Most counties had "poor houses" long before S.S.

        As OUR Founders established, it is the duty of OUR secular republic to equally protect "all persons" from oppression. Regardless of the source. Whether physical or spiritual. It is a rituously huge responsability that requires enough government to accomplish and no more. Unfortunate that it may be that there are those who choose not to support such a Government. Worse are those that "harvest" OUR buisness, move the jobs overseas to avoid taxes and the worker protections as required by OUR govt. while hiding their assets in off-shore accounts.



      Chuck Z. 

Posted by: Allen Alsbrooks | Aug 29, 2013 11:15

Hon, please note the word "if" in my comment.

Posted by: Charles Zimmerman | Aug 31, 2013 10:09

    I ain't your "hon".

    Feel free to notice my disdain for you.


     Chuck Z.

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